swalk says

@nitseee If you want to split a division into two groups, you can't just split them on regards to location. You need to split them in regards to skill of the teams, the groups should be about equally strong.

Bad idea imo, sorry.

SHUT YOUR FACE OR WE WILL DO IT FOR YOU.

Combine Premier and Div1 or just scrap Premier all together. There's no point in playing a season 6 with 3 teams in premier. Divs should have 6 - 10 teams in them so you get a good distribution of games and don't play the same team every other week. Just adding 1-2 teams to premier isn't the best solution because the teams will probably just fold like in season 5.

I'm not sure what's wrong with having a large div1 and just allowing everyone to play one match? Sure, most of the div1 teams are likely to lose to Titus/DIY, but the challenge then becomes simply taking games from them. Winning even 1 or 2 of the rounds could put a team at a big advantage over the other teams. And if you really have a problem with potentially losing a match, then guess what -- you only play that team once!

GORGEous says

Combine Premier and Div1 or just scrap Premier all together. There's no point in playing a season 6 with 3 teams in premier. Divs should have 6 - 10 teams in them so you get a good distribution of games and don't play the same team every other week. Just adding 1-2 teams to premier isn't the best solution because the teams will probably just fold like in season 5.

I'm not sure what's wrong with having a large div1 and just allowing everyone to play one match? Sure, most of the div1 teams are likely to lose to Titus/DIY, but the challenge then becomes simply taking games from them. Winning even 1 or 2 of the rounds could put a team at a big advantage over the other teams. And if you really have a problem with potentially losing a match, then guess what -- you only play that team once!

I'm not sure this "challenge" argument makes any sens. Where is the challenge for TG/2ez to stay together, play with the best players and stomp everyone?

If you only want to play with the best players on a game with 300 avg players don't expect a prem div with 7 teams.

While the top teams in the groups might beat every single other team, the other teams still have a chance of getting rounds and potentially screw the favor. I think every team in those groups should desire getting the chance to try and take rounds from these teams in officials, or at least they should if they have a somewhat competetive mindset. I don't know what DoctorsWithGorges are whining about, they are in my opinion one of the teams that have the highest chances against them. Believe in yourselves god damnit.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uLE-vJUSLqhOqQD8bkJqNZ6VoBqfoQ70UHr8F6da1HI/edit#gid=1018901383

ok everyone how about this

Again stop saying "competitive mindset". Where is this all praise competitive mindset in TG or 2ez? This is the dumbest argument ever cause it's works for both side. And i'm not even playing with doctorwithoutgorge.

We beat Handwashers some days ago with reletive ease

swalk says

We beat Handwashers some days ago with reletive ease

No we didn't, it was 2-2, marine wins on Mineral, alien wins on Jambi.

Everyone can become an astronaut, can win a nobel prize, can become a millionaire, can be the next US-president or whatever if he is believing in his skills an continue to improve them?

Well, NO

The argument that the best players starts as rookies too is true, but only 1 of maybe 100 players has the talent to become prem div level.
Lets call this natural selection.

If a div4 team would nonstop playing against titus, they would improve there game in some aspects for sure but they would never reach the same level.

"Play against better teams to improve" is true but please stop telling people "Every team can play on prem div level if they practice enough"

Alright, since you people just keep going with this. Could Ygg and Doctors disband so we can start the season, thanks.

We want better teams to play, but they won't get better if they only play at or below their level. Every single team that I have practiced against on Titus (or previously when it went by Nexzil) who were "weaker" made huge strides in improving their game and eventually taking rounds off of us.

If there were an entire division above us, you could bet that I would be trying to push my team and myself to be able to participate in the group.

I have played and practiced against better opponents every time I have had the chance and don't take it hard when losing. If anyone remembers when Archaea was around they were usually ahead of the game. I didn't mind losing practices or matches to them because if we did win it made it that much better. Hell I flew overseas to get dominated publicly on twitch front page by them (R.I.P. Nexzil).

I want to have more teams trying to improve themselves and take rounds from us. Not being defeatist and upset because they're worried there isn't much chance. Take the risk. It's 1-2 games and being a season division winner doesn't come with a trophy or prizes.

Your team forfeited the playoff final for this exact reason

But in all seriousness, if it were up to me i would go with NA/EU split, add YGG to NA div since they have the most toxic people. That would be my 'perfect season'. But that's not really fair, and it's not nice being unfair.

Fundamentally, everything you discuss here, should be confronted by the sheer opinion of those NA teams that would be the last seeds in a NA Div, you can discuss about this as much as you want. But i don't see their opinion on the spreadsheets, so if you want this to move forward. You go from there, not by preaching about the benefits of your setup, as they are obvious to anyone with half a brain.

Tinki says

Your team forfeited the playoff final for this exact reason

Awkward...

IMO yggdrasil could beat titus in a semi final play off, and they might be able to draw in a season match.

They're playing DIY frequently and they're improving quickly with the potential to take rounds easily. I'd say they're the next godar; keep trying and they'll be one of the top 2 teams to challenge.

Wob says

Tinki says

Your team forfeited the playoff final for this exact reason

Awkward...

IMO yggdrasil could beat titus in a semi final play off, and they might be able to draw in a season match.

They're playing DIY frequently and they're improving quickly with the potential to take rounds easily. I'd say they're the next godar; keep trying and they'll be one of the top 2 teams to challenge.

That's true about Ygg taking Titus in the semi-final, cause atm that's the only team that we've played who are the hardest of the hardest, who actually evolving all the time and improving. Since Narko and Carnage started it's a total different team.. too bad they lost Zero cause of the effin numbers of high ping games.....


What happened with Haamut btw? Why didnt they get into Prem div last season? Who decided that they werent fit for that division?

Great way of taking out a team in Prem, and then bitching about not having enough teams in the next season.. Too bad the head-admin decided to step down 1 freaking year too late.. Even though he made "so much work in the background who nobody really appriciated and yada yada yada.. and even more yada yada"

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Your team forfeited the playoff final for this exact reason : " they're worried there isn't much chance"
I'm not calling you out in particular, maybe you wanted to play the final (even if no one in the team said so) but there is some hypocrisy here.
When you forfeit the final because you think you are going to lose and then ask for more team to stomp there is an issue.

swalk says

We beat Handwashers some days ago with reletive ease

No we didn't, it was 2-2, marine wins on Mineral, alien wins on Jambi.