Alright so I've been thinking (oh shit!) and decided to try to change a few things. Mainly about all the conflicts I get into on the interwebs and how, more or less, unneccesary they are. I also know that my late night epiphanes have a tendency to fade from my consciousness after a while, so I'm just going to put this shit out here so I can't pussy out later.
Obviously the mutual hostility between me and some of the TROLLS dudes (not all the players in that team of course, you know who you are) is a big part of that.
So here's the deal: I'm sorry about all the shit, some deserved some un-deserved, I've been giving y'alls. In the future I'm going to try my best to be less carebear-y and judgemental. There's no mutual obligation here of course, I'm just telling you what I'll be doing.
That's it, show's over, so everybody go ahead and poke some fun at this craziness.
Edit: Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to the replies to this.
Thy shall smack daun your enemies with the power of the spit and the holy chukle! --------------------------------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASaZmqYa-2Q
Don't understand why people keep propagating this. I never kicked dugi from 9L. We were having big drama problems and me and frG talked about the different options, with the conclusion being that frG and dugi should make their own team (UGO). AFAIK after that frG kicked dugi and then left the team (9L). Not sure how else it could've happened because I don't remember removing either of them.
The drama started when I instituted new rules on the ENSL forums and enforced them heavily. The "TROLLS dudes" were the most heavily affected by this because of their posting habits. Eventually dugi started constantly spamming "Fana is a faggot" and other random troll insults during gathers and I responded by calling him, and the rest of them, assholes and the cancer of the ENSL community. Things kind of evolved from there.
I still disagree with their manners and behaviour, but my participation in turning it into a full on flame war was unneccesary. They're not as bad as I've made them out to be.
Edit: No, dugi, we're full man. Try the Argentinians!
The problem started when you "not technically" kicked us. We left of course, but it was too late by that time since sign-ups were closed. It wouldn't have matter if you kicked us (why woud I like to keep playing with people like dux or sherpa?) but you could've decided to do it days ago, while we were still able to join the league (and you already knew that frg & dugi are incompatible with those 2 fags, or at least I am). If it wasn't beceause of quaxy, we wouldn't have played that season.
Just tell me, during the time we were on 9L how many times did I actually insult you or treat you bad? (I even recommended you to download an instrumental hiphop album!) Sure I told dux and sherpa to fuck off several times but that's because they were being stupid at that moment (I remember some game when dux told me to shut up while I was playing and he was spectating. I was something about "oh maaan why don't you just kill that phasegate!?" then he YELLED "SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY DUGI" and he wasn't even playing).
So yeah, we like to troll you, and we did successfully even though you really weren't the guilty guy here.
Anyway, it's just us, having laughs and stuff. There's no harm from us, at least from me. Everytime I rage, I cool off after 5 minutes so meh.
I like how you make yourself look as though you never did one thing wrong or annoying, dugi. Rose tinted glasses and all. I'm not looking to get into an argument over it and ruin the thread. That was then and it doesn't matter anymore.
I commented shitloads of stuff on private with frg, but I never told anything bad to fana or you directly. We were outperforming you in a way that I never thought we could be doing.
And I told frg MANY times how shit you were. You can't deny that. That's the main reason you maybe were frustated? I don't know, but I never insulted you or Fana or anyone in there till I was out of the clan.
Honestly, I didn't know about the cut off, but if I had I probably wouldn't have cared anyway. My only ambition was to put together a team that could be competitive and fun during that season. When frG asked me (demanded is actually the right word, he said he would leave if I didn't let you join) to let you join, I decided we would give it a try. I'm not sure how you can say that I knew that it wouldn't work, when I obviously didn't know until I had tried it.
Things didn't work out well, as you yourself point out. I didn't personally have any beef with you at the time, but I had a beef with the constant drama and shouting every time we PCWed. I'm not going to blame anyone for that. There were two sides of the shouting contests and both had equal blame. In the end I had to choose between asking you (whom I barely knew) and frG (whom I had a history of getting into fights with) or dux and sherpa (whom I had been playing with for years and respected a great deal) to leave. I can't imagine anyone choosing differently in my position.
The situation was resolved amicably in the end with you and frG leaving on your own volition (you can call it "not technically" if you want to, but you can't deny that there's a difference). It sucked that you almost got dumped from the season, but I don't see how I have any blame in that. I only tried to look after my own and in the end it worked out for you guys too.
I, and many others had a problem with your constant shouting, screaming, raging and general bad attitude at the time so brought it to Fana who was the CL. I lost my patience with you several times because of the noise coming through my headphones so I gave you some noise back. Fire with fire and all that, hardly the best solution but whatever.
As for outperforming, yeah you were. I don't have a problem admitting that, we had all just started playing NS again where as you joined and outperformed everyone as you'd been active. I'm not as good at this game as I used to be and someone being better than me certainly doesn't frustrate me anymore.
as long as you take everything so FUCKIN personal there is no way you can fool around with others, cause you simply take things FUCKIN personal. To simply put it, it's really hard to coopearte when ppl are completly diffrent(its very possible on the other hand but it requiers work) from each other and i've never had so much fun that i did with frg and dugi, mostly cause of this fooling around fana calls shouting/raging w/e. Simply our perception of things is totally diffrent and mostly from this the "conflict" comes.
As an outsider, Fana never gets into rages with me about anything, we disagree on issues and we've trolled each other before.. but it's fine, we can still have a normal conversation and not feel the need to flame at each other at any given opportunity; hell, we even help each other out if necessary.
You guys on the other hand... can't say the same, I've even complimented you for doing something good in-game or whatever. But would you be good enough to try and do the same? Not a chance.
You and frag had an argument and then he joined a team full of people who troll ANYONE AND EVERYONE who isn't in their team, regardless of previous friendships or allegiances.
