(no more experimental stuff being thrown in).

rantology says

(no more experimental stuff being thrown in).

That's something at least. Now the gap isn't getting bigger, hopefully.
But why not decrease the gap? Why do you want to keep these experimental non-vanilla features that are already there? In my opinion, features that are not in vanilla should not be in official matches. Balance changes are great however.

Close the gap before the season begins, put the non-vanilla features in a seperate mod or only make them accessable in the compmod by a special console command. Please don't keep non-official features in officials. Pretty please. You can easily re-enable them if they somehow get adopted into vanilla.

The changes are quite minimal at the moment

rantology says

The changes are quite minimal at the moment

Sure the vanilla patch made the gap smaller, but to say that the changes are minimal at the moment is quite laughable. Especially since you listed them afterwards. Those changes mean that we aren't playing NS2. We are playing an entirely seperate mod. Well, consider my post a pledge to zefram then.

I personally think it is currently preventing some teams from signing up for the season and that is pretty damn bad if that is true. It might also be the lack of advertising. There is nothing to be found about season 5 on the official ns2 homepage other than a lonely forum post in the competetive forums.

From my understanding adding a walk key would not be possible, really, You'd have to re-purpose one of the existing keybindings. You cannot add additional keybindings because the game is already at the limit of 31.

I guess what I post now is commonly known already but for those who did not notice:

Umbra causes crashes in compmod atm. Don't use it until it gets fixed (it crashes for marines aswell as for aliens).

Saw 6 people crashing yesterday because a lerk used umbra in hub

@ritual there is no more planned iterations, however there will always be updates to fix bugs or tweak small things. Apologies if one of them messed with your scrim schedule... we broke the icons and were trying to get it fixed, it was unintentional.

Tomatoes, Tamatoes.... To me they are minimal because they take elements of the game that you 100% never saw because they are useless, and simply makes them an option. So at worst you might see more varied games.. But of course if you have a zero tolerance attitude towards change, then the mod will be quite bad in your view regardless of what's in it, which sucks... but again it seemed like the majority of the community endorsed these kinds of additions and that is why we kept going in this direction.

If teams are not signing up as a direct result of this version of the mod then that's quite regrettable. If it's true.

rantology says

Tomatoes, Tamatoes.... To me they are minimal because they take elements of the game that you 100% never saw because they are useless, and simply makes them an option. So at worst you might see more varied games.. But of course if you have a zero tolerance attitude towards change, then the mod will be quite bad in your view regardless of what's in it, which sucks... but again it seemed like the majority of the community endorsed these kinds of additions and that is why we kept going in this direction.

If teams are not signing up as a direct result of this version of the mod then that's quite regrettable. If it's true.

Wtf.. It seems you don't really understand what I am saying, like at all. My turn to twist your words: So HMG was useless before and was made useful?

I am not against change, I am against making NS2 something else than NS2. Number modifications and changes to how vanilla abilites work are fine, as long as it's the same game in it's essence. But when you go ahead and do something like bring in a an entirely new weapon, then you screw balance over and are basicly doing the opposite of balancing the game. Adding new stuff that isn't going into vanilla is a bad idea. It splits the waters and we need the ocean back.

Swalk if you can definitively show that the majority of the community shares this opinion then we can all go back to playing revision 2. That's how compmod has always been handled- whatever the majority is OK with is generally what we go with. There was calls for feedback on all of this months before implementation and there's been threads, meetings and countless conversations held since r3's release. Just recently the vanilla game itself adopted many of the changes from compmod- even some from r3. The gap between vanilla and compmod has closed significantly since 268 and one can hope it will continue to do so in future patches.

If you have a specific point of feedback about the HMG or anything else that is "screwing over balance" please elaborate and it will be looked at. There are no plans for any major changes to revision 3 at this time. If you want to play the vanilla game, you are free to do so. If you want the vanilla game to be played in the NSL season 5, that's a whole different animal- you're going to need the backing of the majority of the competitive community to get it changed.

70% of the time, Alien teams win.

Regarding previous changes, I personally think that the nerf of "silent" lerk is totally unnecessary.

Regen: Instead of cutting regeneration during the combat timer, i would go for a 50% reduction of healing from Regeneration during this same interval.

Muccous shoud give more shield (like 15% to 20% maybe?) atm it's a very light shield considering its cost.

@simba I'm a bit against that change since early game marines can already destroy alien expansion. What about a more endgame oriented change to marines?

I don't mean to repeat myself, but some grenade changes could really solve a versatile set of issues. Maybe decrease the time it takes for nerve gas to start up and extend the time that cluster grenades disable buildings. That would allow marine retakes to be much easier into something like an umbra onos on tram. Single nerve gas grenade on door to push lifeforms away, then open into the room with pulse and cluster grenades to lower the options of the aliens. Also, maybe have reduced research time on catpacks and grenades based on how deep in the game is.